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Callie Chaney (JD ‘24) and Kenzie Thielen (MBA ‘24, MNA ‘23) discovered their deep connection in Business on the Frontlines, a course in which graduate business and law students create projects with organizations working in some of the world’s toughest places
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Mustering moral imagination
Chaney and Thielen have front-row seats to the two Americas that coexist uncomfortably in our country. They were “the haves” until criminal charges, frozen assets, investigations and prison sentences moved their families into “have nots.” Chaney, whose father was a doctor and could afford gifts like a private jet trip to a concert, felt like her family went from the highest of highs to the lowest of lows. “You’re in a totally different class,” Chaney said. “All of a sudden, there was a period where we didn’t know where our next paycheck was coming from because most of my family members were out of work for one reason or another.” The only person she recalled maintaining a job at that time was her grandpa, who owned a gas station. “The economy works well when there's dignified work and a decent living. It was working for my family, and then it wasn't. It was much worse,” Thielen said. After leaving prison, her father could only find work in a construction firm owned by a family member.
There’s no us and them, there’s just us
With the passing of time, Chaney and Thielen look back with a certain amount of circumspection on how their fathers and families weathered the mess of legal battles, drastic lifestyle changes and relationships with spirituality and faith. Both stopped attending church for a while, the publicity, gossip, rejection and ensuing shame and embarrassment became overwhelming. In prison, their fathers embraced faith to help them make sense of their sentences. The two women communicate frequently about their shared experiences and how the shame and embarrassment has transformed into grace and inspiration for supporting others. Thielen is becoming more comfortable sharing her story. The two have discussed creating opportunities like an online community, a scholarship, a book or a podcast to help other children of incarcerated parents who feel “in the shadows,” as Thielen put it, “To make sure they don't feel alone. If I would have had Callie as a friend in middle school and high school, it would have been drastically different.” Chaney said sometimes shame still rears up and tries to hold her back. “There are people who have parents in for the rest of their life because of a violent crime, and people of color are disproportionately impacted by the criminal justice system,” said Chaney. “And I'm white with a dad that went to prison for a short time. Sometimes I fear that I’m not the right spokesperson for this issue.” Likely the two will wrestle this for the rest of their lives. Father Greg Boyle, a Jesuit priest and founder of Homeboy Industries, where Thielen’s team served, writes beautifully about shame and how kinship can eclipse it: “We tend to think that shame happens to someone else. It seems outside of us, yet it's precisely within the contours of one’s shame that one is summoned to wholeness.” It’s toward that wholeness that the two look as they create a community of kinship that Fr. Greg describes, where there is “no us and them — there’s just us.” “I'm just amazed at how God put us in those two seats on that day for that conversation,” Chaney said, recalling the birth of their kinship. “Our stories are so, so similar.” Originally posted on Business on the Frontlines.Related News & Stories
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